MetaTalk Episode 1 Recap

Caduceus
16 min readJul 21, 2022

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Do you foresee the turning point of the GameFi track, GameFi 2.0 is coming?

Alex, Host:

Caduceus is the future foundation and technology supplier of the Metaverse. It is a layer one blockchain dedicated to metaverse development that offers up to 100,000 TPS and almost non existent gas fees. On its protocol, Caduceus is anticipated to develop more than 100 ecological applications in 2022.

To find out more about Caduceus, please follow our socials, join our community, and look out for the latest news and updates.

Onto MetaTalk now. MetaTalk is a round table for discussing the features and benefits of the Caduceus Metaverse Protocol where all partners will have the chance to debate all aspects of various tracks/fields. Members of MetaTalk will investigate the unique value and future growth of the Metaverse ecological application. Through activities and airdrops, the integrated ecological application presented at the conference will encourage users to finish the experience.

My name is Alex and I work in the Community team for Caduceus. Now let’s get stuck into it. We have a range of guests with us today that we’re really excited to speak to.

Let’s welcome; Gabriel Brockman, CEO at Nunu Spirits, Michael, Co-founder and CMO at Souls of Meta, Francisco, CEO and Founder of Sugar Kingdom, Hoang Le, Founder at Meta Dog World and Beckyyam, CM at Metaline.

Q1.So let’s start with an introduction to you and your project.

Gabriel Brockman, CEO at NUNU Spirits:

Nunu Spirits is a new kind of NFT game that connects gaming to the real world.

It is the only game ecosystem that I know of that combines the mass market appeal of Casual Gaming with the earning potential of Blockchain GameFi and turns it all into direct Ecological Action.

We are calling it Play 2 Earn 2 Plant.

We have super cute 3D NFTs each connected to a live tree planted in the real world. Play with your Nunu NFTs in fun minigames.

*Note: games will be playable as both Play2Earn as well as traditional Free2Play games (on Android and iOS).

Michael, Co-founder and CMO at Souls of Meta:

SOULS OF MΞTΛ is a cross-game, multi-chain Fun-2-Earn (Play-Own-Earn + Free-2-Play), third-person, action-RPG and fantasy NFT gaming metaverse of Blades and Sorcery. You can own and monetize NFT assets through GameFi and SocialFi, and travel through community-created realms, fight monsters, collaborate with other players (PvE & PvP), solve quests and beyond — having fun playing and earning at the same time!

Francisco, CEO and Founder of Sugar Kingdom:

Sugar Kingdom is a blockchain NFT, Play2Earn, match-3 game and metaverse. It’s not just a game for those who are blockchain users but a game that could introduce blockchain to millions of players.

The game ensures a familiar, fun and addictive experience, which is already validated by users of all ages and from all countries.

At the same time, it represents a unique opportunity to explore new financial opportunities and to have control over our assets and have total freedom to manage them.

Hoang Le, Founder at Meta Dog World:

Meta Dog World is a race-to-earn and sports-betting dog racing metaverse born to digitize and gamify the traditional greyhound racing industry onto the blockchain.

Users can own, feed, train, breed and compete NFT dogs in races without requiring expert knowledge of either traditional dog racing nor the gaming skills; it’s designed so that everyone can join and earn with ease.

There are not only greyhounds, other cute and casual dog breeds will be added into the game. For example: Shiba, Corgi, Dachshund, Husky and Alaska to make the races more exciting and joyful and attract dog lovers and casual users around the globe.

Q2. As the most important part of GameFi, the product is key to acquiring users and the foundation of project development. Can you share more about this? For example, the future product function direction.

Gabriel Brockman, CEO at NUNU Spirits:

This is key! Good games will always perform better and last longer. We are game development veterans and we understand the best way to make sure your game is great is by making rapid and frequent adjustments, and making sure you involve your players in the process. We test early and often and listen to our players.

We think that GameFi is only just beginning. We are working on both sides of the problem. Looking to bring the best of F2P and P2E together for healthier and more sustainable projects. Expect Nunu Spirits to be playable as a F2P or P2E experience. Users can even benefit from both models at the same time and enjoy ease of onboarding and transactions in F2P and the ability to collect assets of value in P2E.

Crypto will also allow us to create a rewarded environment for third party creators and community curation — all of this moves the project towards stronger DAO governance.

Michael, Co-founder and CMO at Souls of Meta:

We are starting with P2E MVP where users can earn by playing our game, and trade their playable NFTs. We already have a playable demo to check out and an Android version to enjoy the game from your phone.

But we see our Souls of Meta as not just a P2E game. It is a metaverse with the ability to do whatever you like and earn money for it. Do you like playing? Ok, here you go. We offer Fun-2-Earn 3rd-person RPG games with different daily missions, seasonal events, guilds, fights using swords and magic. Or, maybe, you prefer to create levels or construct online? Great! Then you can enjoy our Create-2-Earn and Build-2-Earn features and receive money when other players use/play on your levels, and so many more ideas are being implemented for our users to have fun while earning and earn for having a great time. Stay tuned and start your journey in Souls of Meta now.

Francisco, CEO and Founder of Sugar Kingdom:

Sugar Kingdom aims to create a whole Metaverse based on gaming products, where all the games are attached to a single economy. At this moment, we are developing our second game, a Tower Defence, that will be released very soon. This will be the second game of many that will be launched in the Sugar Kingdom Metaverse, providing more opportunities to the users, increasing the burning mechanisms for our utility token, increasing the utility of our NFTs across the platform and promoting the social interaction between our users.

Hoang Le, Founder at Meta Dog World:

Firstly, as we all know, the market situation is very difficult right now and we don’t know how it will be in the next period. Therefore, the first thing the MDW team cares about is completing the project and optimising the user experience because the MDW team believes that a good project and a good product is the real key to success, and this is a game made for everyone.

- Easy to play and earn, short brief plays, idle games

- Have anti-inflation with dogs and items

- New dog breed and new reward pool will add monthly

- Have Dog Economics support the main token DOGO

- 9 ways to earn, suitable for any types of investors

- Easy-to-see interface, easy to play

- Have zero-sum solution

- External money source

- Business model: NFT, Fee, Fundraising, Token Sale, Ad Sale, Betting

- The team has many years of experience in Game Development

- Plan for future vision with metaverse dog ecosystem

Beckyyam, CM at Metaline:

1. Infrastructure communications are slow because chain communications are slow.

2.In terms of the whole project, we are still more focused on Oracle itself and only strengthening on-chain + off-chain data analysis capabilities. It provides a full range of services for the Web3 world, this is our ultimate goal also.

Q3. What new elements will Caduceus bring to GameFi? Leading edge rendering/computing to help with the project.

Gabriel Brockman, CEO at NUNU Spirits:

Caduceus is working on some major pain points in the industry. We think joining the others that have already joined Caduceus will help accelerate progress and make the industry as a whole more accessible. Furthermore, Cross Chain Utility is something we strive for in our NFTs and Caduceus provides an environment that makes cross chain activities run smoothly.

Michael, Co-founder and CMO at Souls of Meta:

We are looking for partners that can help us enable and speed up our Metaverse development. SoulVerse is our native metaverse where playable NFT characters will be present from different gaming projects. Those NFTs will also become tradable on our Marketplace. In this way, we value all cross-game multiverse partners and enablers like Caduceus.

Francisco, CEO and Founder of Sugar Kingdom:

Caduceus, in matters of development, provides all the necessary tools to develop assets in a simple and low cost way. The infrastructure provided for digitalization of physical NFTs, 3D objects creations, virtual environments and more is a dream come true for game developers. The scalability is assured.

Hoang Le, Founder at Meta Dog World:

Caduceus is the metaverse protocol with decentralised edge rendering, designed to provide the infrastructure layer for metaverse development.The ultimate goal is to provide a reliable, friendly, easy adaptable platform to the developer community and help shorten the metaverse development journey, as well as lowering the development cost. For 3D creators, Caduceus offers faster processing speed, lower latency and minimum cost in the rendering process. When we collaborate, we really hope they can help optimise products and the game experience. At the same time, we also want them to help us connect investment funds and partners such as PR, GameGuilds, and communities to promote communication and marketing to more people. Meta Dog World is really a humanity and potential project, and we really believe in its success.

Beckyyam, CM at Metaline:

This facilitates the building of highly performant Metaverse infrastructure that is trustworthy, efficient, secure and dependable.

Q4. As a GameFi track, it is inevitable to encounter other projects of the same type. How can your project continue to maintain its own advantages and uniqueness?

Gabriel Brockman, CEO at NUNU Spirits:

Well we haven’t met anyone else doing what we are doing yet. So we are ahead of the curve for sure but, in the end, we really hope to see others follow in our footsteps and we will do our best to support and guide others as we take this step towards connecting our digital world to our real world. We have already made some incredible partnerships and rather than setting ourselves in opposition, we have agreed to help each other.

Michael, Co-founder and CMO at Souls of Meta:

Just as every person on Earth is unique, every project has its own specifics. We have created a Fun-2-Earn game with many features that can be called exceptional and during our game development, we are analysing our community feedback and market trends to improve and optimise our Gaming Metaverse to be the best one on the GameFi market.

Francisco, CEO and Founder of Sugar Kingdom:

Economy sustainability. Economy management must be taken care of by a professional team, constantly improving and creating strategies to assure the long term of the project, while new features are being added. Innovation must be present on the day to day of the developers team, taking the GameFi to the next level. The sky’s the limit.

Hoang Le, Founder at Meta Dog World:

We know there are many similar projects in the market. We have researched this area for quite a long time and have built Meta Dog World with the following unique points:

First, is the practical application of blockchain to digitize the sports dog racing industry. Dog racing is a sports industry that has been around for more than 100 years, and many dogs have been injured, broken legs, been injected with drugs and even died on the racetrack. Meta Dog World project was created with the goal of digitizing and gamifying dog racing on the blockchain to solve these problems.

The second is that it’s the first metaverse project to use stable coin BUSD to pay rewards.

Third: no ponzi, no inflation. Dog races will be held in countries where betting is legal and betting money will be used to sponsor dog owners. To counteract inflation, we limit the amount of races per dog and limit the times of breeding per dog. In the later version when three economy elements are released, the price will vary depending on the market demand/supply to simulate lifelike economy. This empowers the users to control the in-game economy however they want.

Beckyyam, CM at Metaline:

Strong playability; the future will integrate with the physical world.

It is not a single product, it belongs to a product within the whole ecosystem of Decredit.

Features include having their own Oracle and strong playability.

Q5. The NFT rental market has solved the high threshold problem of GameFi. What do you think of the NFT rental function in the future?

Gabriel Brockman, CEO at NUNU Spirits:

I think rentals are great for large collectors. There are only so many hours in the day for playing. Giving big supporters strong ways to put their collections to work can only strengthen the system. Our game is a bit less reliant on NFTs for playing but they remain crucial for strong reward earning potential. Easy, safe, and understandable interfaces for connecting new users to scholarship programs are essential for building community and trust. This will always be our top priority when facilitating these types of contracts within our ecosystem.

Michael, Co-founder and CMO at Souls of Meta:

As NFTs continue to grow and redefine digital ownership, NFT renting will become widely adopted, which will unlock new values for all key stakeholders (NFT owners, borrowers, marketplaces, artists, NFT projects). Through development of creative rental mechanisms and safety measures for both lender and borrower, people will feel less reluctant about the concept of renting NFTs.

The NFT market is growing and developing with tremendous speed and the NFT rental function will take its place on one of the steps/phases of this market’s evolution. In Souls of Meta we will be enabling NFT rentals to lower the entry barrier for our community and enable scholarships for Guilds.

Francisco, CEO and Founder of Sugar Kingdom:

As NFTs continue to grow and redefine digital ownership, NFT renting will become widely adopted, which will unlock new values for all key stakeholders (NFT owners, borrowers, marketplaces, artists, NFT projects). Through development of creative rental mechanisms and safety measures for both lender and borrower, people will feel less reluctant about the concept of renting NFT.

Hoang Le, Founder at Meta Dog World:

With the continued proliferation of NFT rentals, entering the P2E space has become even easier. Accordingly, games could allow users to rent NFTs instead of buying them, with no strings attached. For those who own this NFT, this is an opportunity to generate additional passive income.

The audience of NFT rental services is very diverse for different reasons. Some rentals are looking to build their reputation in the NFT community and so they can set NFTs as avatars on social networks. On the other hand, artists and art galleries can rent out these NFTs during their opening events with exciting, imaginative images or hold limited-time events with specific works.

I believe one of the most important steps is to build a user-friendly platform. They can aggregate lenders, offer profitable rental models with automated payments and NFT authenticity checks, and provide data to help make decisions.

NFT leasing will drive the entire GameFi and NFT space and contribute to the growth of the industry. They will help bring in more investments and liquidity, creating more opportunities for NFT players and holders.

Beckyyam, CM at Metaline:

The NFT leasing market is a large market, but leasing conditions are relatively simple so some NFT gameplay will be expanded in the future.There is a lot of future value for Caduceus here. We will deploy our own ecology through Decredit which includes Oracle, SocialFI,DEFI etc. Let’s make the web3 world a more diverse world.

Q6. GameFi 2.0 theoretically improves the offline scalability and social attributes of the digital world, and realises the intercommunication between virtual and real spaces. How will your project achieve the development of GameFi 2.0?

Gabriel Brockman, CEO at NUNU Spirits:

Our digital assets are tied to real world assets via IDs that can be tracked and verified. Auditability and accountability is a must for our real world partners. Furthermore, by tethering the F2P experience to the the P2E we create a hybrid model for maximum access and stability. We are not the first to look at this combined model but we still have the added “Tree Effect”; our forests are real and as such have tangible value. We believe that in addition to any alternative revenue potential this real asset helps provide a touch point for understanding the value of our NFTs (and our entire ecosystem). The bigger our forests grow, the more resources we have to expand the game world and the bigger our game, the more trees we can plant.

Michael, Co-founder and CMO at Souls of Meta:

At the moment we are following our roadmap, which already includes many GameFi 2.0 features (users generated content/levels, daily missions, joining and creating guilds with real users, seasonal in-game events, etc) and we have many more ideas to implement soon.

Francisco, CEO and Founder of Sugar Kingdom:

Hoang Le, Founder at Meta Dog World:

In our future version, there will be a feature for the user to scan their real dogs and upload the data to the system so that it can be digitized as a 3D model with animation and as an NFT on blockchain. The NFT dog can then join social activities in MetaDogWorld to interact with other digitized dogs, racing, spas, beauty salons, fashion shows, hiking etc forming a SocialFi of dogs in the blockchain space and connecting users in both digital and physical form.

Q7. Some people say that the biggest difference between GameFi 2.0 and GameFi 1.0 is that it has changed from “play-to-earn” to “play-with-earn” with more normalised value attributes. What do you think of this statement?

Gabriel Brockman, CEO at NUNU Spirits:

Yeah I think this definition of 2.0 makes sense. The old gameFi worked for its time, in its way, but it certainly wasn’t sustainable. I kinda think of it as the wild wild west. We are growing up though, economic models are becoming more sophisticated and emphasis is being placed on long term sustainability. Gameplay is even becoming increasingly important too, which is great for those, like us, that really want to build lasting game experiences. GameFi projects will need to be more aware of the utility/value they are creating, especially the tokens being generated. For our project, we are going for Play + Earn + Plant — so gameFi 2.1? Our theory remains that systems without some sort of tangible connection/utility will always suffer when the cost of scaling users becomes prohibitive (new user acquisitions always slow down at some point). If you have not built a system that generates enough revenue to sustain your player base you will see the system fall apart. We think this “plant a tree” thing is a great place to start, but it is by no means the only way to sync digital and real worlds.

Michael, Co-founder and CMO at Souls of Meta:

One of the differences is that GameFi 2.0 is more focused on customer’s/gamer’s satisfaction from the gameplay. The game creators are trying now not only to catch attention but to create real value for their users in the long term.

Francisco, CEO and Founder of Sugar Kingdom:

Hoang Le, Founder at Meta Dog World:

From the gaming point of view, most GameFi 1.0 projects don’t have sufficient operation, and strategy, and are not as fun. The sole purpose while playing the game is to earn an income blindly, which often leads to a situation where people are using AI to achieve earning, creating inflation in the game that stymies its potential. With the innovation of GameFi 2.0, there is finally a solution to this situation. The biggest advantage that GameFi in the 2.0 era has over GameFi 1.0 is that the games have both great gameplay and economic benefits, which makes users pay-to-play like traditional games. Game production in the GameFi 2.0 era also has higher playability compared with off-chain games.

Beckyyam, CM at Metaline:

DeFi 1.0 had the emphasis on making money first, so the game was less playable.

GameFi 2.0 is more focused on strong playability. The player is in entertainment to earn money.

Q8. In addition to game richness and economic feedback, GameFi 2.0 also pays attention to the establishment of community values and feelings. How will you maintain your community and users in this regard?

Gabriel Brockman, CEO at NUNU Spirits:

Well as game development veterans we know how important your community is. It all starts with the way we make our games. We collect data and research the market first. Then, we move step by step through multiple iterations of each game, building fast and testing often offers the best chance at success. As a side benefit, our community knows us well even before the product officially launches. They know how we work and we are able to establish trust and that really helps us communicate both ways. Our tokenomics are set to provide great incentives for community engagements.

Michael, Co-founder and CMO at Souls of Meta:

That is the reason we are aiming not Play-2-Earn but Fun-2-Earn so people can earn money not just playing similar games but really enjoying the process like it is in traditional gaming. Being excited to go through daily missions, developing their characters’ skills, participating in community driven events etc.

Francisco, CEO and Founder of Sugar Kingdom:

Community is the most important pillar in a project. For every developer team, it is a MUST to listen to their users, allowing the feedback and suggestions from the community. Synergies must be created between the two parts and act in conjunction to increase the value of the products and assure a long term establishment of them.

Hoang Le, Founder at Meta Dog World:

We need to focus on 3 things: the need to be applicable to all crypto-users and non-crypto users, to have a low threshold, in addition to having game types that appeal to users.

The Play to Earn model is also an important indicator of high user popularity. Moreover, connecting with the gambling users to get the pay-to-play users, and all users will create a whole ecosystem that is sustainable and strong.

Also, having low gas fees and efficient capabilities is key, as is being willing to fix feedback from users.

Beckyyam, CM at Metaline:

1. Product diversity brings new experiences to users.

2. Do some activities after improving the gameplay of the product to increase conversion rate.

The community and the project side are both antagonistic and win-win. Through the game of playability, product integration makes the community more engaged.

At the same time, expanding the ecology of Oracle and the ecology of Decredit make users win in the whole ecosystem.

Alex, Host:

Thank you everyone for attending our MetaTalk Episode 1: Foreseeing the turning point of the GameFi track, GameFi 2.0 is coming. We’re looking forward to meeting you all in Episode 2!

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